Possession

[Mysterious573]

I wanted to throw this out there to get some feed back. I was wondering if any one has had any experience with a possession before? Not just any kind though. A nasty entity that has latched onto another soul and doesn't want to let go in anyway.

I am kind of stuck on this one and have been for years, I haven't met anyone that has provided me with anything that could be of any use.

[Aleforge]

Possession of what exactly? I am not sure what your spiritual beliefs are so Its a hard one to comment on. As far as "Evil spirits and Demons" there is no such thing in Wicca. The God and Goddess possess both good and bad and are very much human in quality. :cheers:

[Nature's Jester]

I wouldn’t recommend going my rout but I’ll relate it to you anyway:

About five years ago one of my friends was playing with fire, gateway magick, blood magick, that kinda thing, and she inadvertently invited something nasty through.
One day we were practicing at my place when this thing started talking to me through her, this made me quite angry because it was being rude (I was very arrogant at the time). I called something even worse over and allowed it to partially posses me; after asserting my control over it I used it’s power to bind her to a bed, I then began lashing her with power, binding it within her and sealing it there, powerless.

This is not a good way of going about things but it worked, my overblown ego wouldn’t have let me do it any other way at that point in my life.
In order to take control of something like I did one needs to have their consent in the matter and needs to be practically fearless of it. It pains me to remember how stupid I was, binding something like that inside of her, regardless of how thoroughly it is done, still affected her negatively. The pattern of darkness remained even where the darkness itself couldn’t reach.

Now I know better and I have a few better ways of dealing with such entities, ranging from the most mild to the fanatically malevolent.

[Mysterious573]

I would hardly call it a demon or an evil spirit. Maybe a dark being would be more the term, because it is not evil. Though it can be rather annoying and very negative at times.

The fact of the matter is I do not know what it is and I have lived with it all my life. I just know that it seems to like to get in the way of many things along my path. I used to think it was just bad luck or maybe even just me trying to make a victim out of myself but I know now that isn't true.

I never speaks or makes contact with me other then sharing the same body. It did once or twice speak with my friends and made prediction that have most certainly come true.

I am sorry this probably all sounds strange, but I guess it is better for you to know if I am asking for help.

Usually this always put in the back of my mind never really to think to much on it. Kind of my way of running from the truth. But things are coming to pass I can not ignore. At a small sort of sleep over party with my friends I had a break down. I was about 18 or 19 and I blacked out for well over 7 hours. I really didn't have any memory of what happen in the time until my friends told me a little. It is all really fuzzy like they are not even my memories.

What they said happened was I was walking around the house with my eyes closed not falling or stumbling over anything. Then for someone who can not read tarot cards I started doing readings for my friends with my eyes closed and was doing them extremely well (one of my friends used to read tarot cards and was there) Then things got really strange for them.

They could hear whispers all over the house and the lights would flicker even though there was no storm or any conditions that would cause that. I was speaking in another voice and whatever this thing was told them that it was very old, older them civilization and even time. That i had become linked to my soul since birth and could not survive with me. Not something I am too happy about myself.

They it told them things that would happen to them years later down the road. A few came true but nothing that would usually make me think anything of it. Then someone that was there I told them they would have a child and that during the time her family would kick her out and she would end up living on her own. Not that big of a deal that happens everyday in this world. But I also told her it would be a boy and born on Halloween.

Guess what happened this year? She had a baby boy on Halloween.

So some random things coming true is really nothing to be worried about. The thing that does scare me is whatever it is that enables me to have the abilities I do has been attracting not so nice things. I don't really believe in evil spirits, and I don't really believe in evil as most people refer to it. I do however believe in darkness. An opposite side to all things that are positive. And this thing tends to bring a great deal of darkness into my life. Everything from harmful entities to extreme misfortune which can be slightly life threatening at times.

I really just don't know what to do about it. Nor do a few of my wiccan friends around here. So I am really search for anyone that has anything to offer with this.

[Nature's Jester]

The fact that you know this of the thing within is a good start, knowledge is potential… Beings of spirit need us to have any true influence on the material plane, like they are beings of spirit and have power over and within their native plane, so we are beings of matter (as long as we are within this shell) and have power over and within this material plane. This is the key to working with most spiritual entities, the realization that they need us if they truly wish to change anything on this plane, the strange thing is that we don’t need them to create change, only for protection and guidance. In a situation like yours I would say first define the entity, make contact with it and begin to question it about its self. This can be done using several methods, but it should never be done alone; at least one other person must be with you when you attempt this… at least.
Before attempting any of these, take a cleansing bath using sea-salt, sage, and lavender, scrub yourself vigorously, but not painfully, from head to toe visualizing all the darkness stripping away from you and into the water. Once you are done with this pull the plug and sell all of that darkness draining away. You may wish to wash the bath out afterwards, if this is the case then just run you hands under some cold water once you are finished, this cleanses your hands of any residue.

The first method (the more dangerous one) is through meditation, allowing you consciousness to subside while searching for the point of origin (where it derives from within you, if you cannot find this then it is not a part of you and can be dealt with I another matter), once this point is found allow it to surface while maintaining a firm grip over your own control. Give your friend or friends a list of questions you would like to know about it and have them write down the answers given. This is to be done within a Circle of Protection and at no point should the circle be broken before it is complete.
Once this is done have your friends begin calling you be your name, have them telling the thing to leave you be for now, in a firm voice they must demand that you return and that they will all remain in the circle until full control is your again. You must also strive for control, this may be easy or hard but giving up is NOT an option.

The second method is allowing it to speak through you, again in a Circle with others, speak to it, tell it you wish it to take control of your hand/mouth (whichever you are comfortable with). Each person in the circle, including you, must be ready with a pen and a piece of paper.
Three methods can work for this way, first writing the alphabet on your piece of paper and allowing it to move the pen to the appropriate letters, answering each question in turn. (just like a Ouija board) The second method is to allow it to write down the answers while you keep your eyes closed, ceding complete control of your arm and hand over to it. The Third is to allow it to speak from your mouth, answering all questions in turn.
In all of these methods keep each question clearly in mind and nothing else, record all proceedings , and keep in mind that it is YOU allowing IT to do this, not the other way around, you are the host not a victim.

After each session like this (and there may be a few depending on how yielding this thing is) cleanse thoroughly. If you use any of the second methods, thank it for answering your questions and bid it farewell for now. It won’t hurt to say a prayer to the Divine in whatever image you view them for their blessing and the success of the proceedings, and a meditation beforehand to clear your mind of all distractions is always a good idea. I normally meditate in the bath just before I cleanse.

If you need any more help just shout, there are other methods I know. Please be careful, I know it’s a lot to deal with but be strong and tell me how it goes.

[agiftandacurse]

Hey, I just wanted to know what has happened sinse the time of the last post being as it was in march - a month ago.

I have just signed back into this forum after a long time away from it and I must say I was ERY intrigued with this matter.
As most people would probably remember, I am a very spiritual person and have been sinse the age of about 12 *when it started to become more powerful* though I have been for my whole life as well as my twin sister, father and his parents and family etc - it's all from my fathers side, though my mothjer has a very high spiritual belief aswell.

For some reason - though this is probably not the case - when you mentioned that it needed to you, and has been with you sinse the moment you were born, it came to my thught that it was your guardian for some reason...
of course we have our own guardians etc which some people think are animals when they can also be people too. My family has a large tree of native indian guardians - mine is a little girl who had survived for ten season *ten years in indian terms, each season was achnoleged when the wild buffalo's returned in spring,* when the buffalos diappeared. She had a horse called MoonShadow because shadow and moon are connected. Her father was also the chief of one of many tribes. My sister how ever had a very special animal guardian - a very HUGE white/silver bear called Chukna - ronounced - chu-uk-naa or something like that lol. And my father the same indian type thing.
What I am trying to say is, they generally are with you all your life, watching of you so to speak and that's what impression I grew from yours. I am probably wrong with this theory, but i am sure you catch y drift with this explanation haha

Butb another thing that caught my attention was that it needed you to survive...that was what confused me because I dont see how a guardian needs to do such a thing - hints why I thought that my theory was not the case - but...

If you allowed me, I could share thiese posts with my father *which would be quite hard to deal with in the first place being as he's not into this belief* but I'm sure he could come up with a reasonable answer too. He's had many bad expiriences and many very wonderful ones.
Just a thought...